For temperature I used the Reporting Setting 10, 300, 20 as used by the SML001 internal Hue Motion sensors and wrote it to the device. I thought the temperature sensor was a nice addition, but it reads 2 degrees Celsius lower than it actually is. To explain the above, the sensor gives the temperature as a four-digit number, like 1753, which is 17.53 degrees Celsius. It’s one or the other. My bad. You notice the script begins with two functions that do the … Thanks for the reply! The Hue Outdoor Sensor is the first outdoor HomeKit sensor, and adds motion, temperature, and light sensors to automate the outside of your Apple-centric smart home. All of them are two degrees off. Plus, the Hue Motion Sensor can do way more than any other third-party motion sensor: it can sense whether it’s night out, … Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Hue sensor temperature - Problem with conditions. Is this a known problem? Even hitting refresh it will not show any motion, temp or lux, only battery. Oh well. On the “sunset” section, I add an action to turn on the smart plug. On the “sunrise” section, I simply don’t add any action since I want nothing to happen. Hue Motion Sensor - Making use of the built in thermometer! I tested it with 2 thermometers as well. Try it out and please let me know if it works or not. Worth noting is that both of them worked flawlessly with my Hue … So I have a Hue Motion sensor that I am able to connect to HE but after it is connected it does not respond to anything. Yeah when I discovered the motion sensor also included a lux sensor I thought, why not use it as an ambient light sensor? Hue Temperature Sensor. The outdoor sensor can be mounted on a flat wall or a corner. I have a few of the Hue motion sensors. I use a “Phoscon” gateway and “Xiaomi” multisensor, a combination that allows to define a couple of rules even for the same purpose. Hue motion sensor (for SmartThings integration, no Hue bridge) Inspired by [BETA] Hue Motion Sensor (beta) (no hue bridge) and the original smartthings motion sensor. We display the current temperatures from your Hue motion sensors inbuilt thermometers on the app home screen. Next, install your smart lights and the Hue Motion Sensor. On the other hand, this device is not as sensitive as the Philips Hue Indoor Motion Sensor. Shouldn’t be needed anyways. Connect this Philips Hue motion sensor to your Philips Hue bridge (not included) to create a smart home lighting system. Like most cheap sensors, it's probably internally consistent (i.e., it's always off by the same 2 degrees). It only takes one screw to do so. Events will only sent on deploy (once) and if the temperature changes. Afterwards I created the binding for temperature and illuminance. Ah okay! Never thought of that. The outdoor sensor is designed for outdoor use and is waterproof, it is also black whereas the indoor sensor is in a white casing. level 1 Control the light intensity according to the time of day and conserve energy around the clock with this wireless, freestanding or wall-mountable box. The system reacts the moment the limit is crossed, but not to existing conditions. I have two other HomeKit temp sensors and those are perfect. It works amazingly well. In terms of hardware, all you need to do is open the box and remove the plastic tab to connect the battery. I've got six motion sensors and I never noticed an accuracy problem. I recall that somewhere in the Hue app (I think the Hue labs section) there was an example that it can give a notification or something when the temperature in the baby room was dropping too low. To connect the motion sensor to your Alexa device, make sure the Philips Hue Motion sensor is in pairing mode in the Hue app. Frank_Schöttler. What I did: Configure a “greater than 28 degrees” with a sunset/sunrise condition on the temperature sensor page. Something like this: This could effectively works as a workaround! that does the same, but for a temperature of more than 28 degrees and slightly less than the temperature was the moment when you experienced that your setting seemed not to work. Thanks to Thomas of HUE Essentails, it all works perfect now. So setting a reference value is fine for that. In the Eve app you can make automations based on lux and presto, it works like a charm. The Hue Motion sensor's integrated daylight sensor detects when there is still enough daylight so that lights do not turn on until you need them. Are you talking about the Philips Hue motion sensor? The Philips Hue motion sensors, which also use the Zigbee protocol, have a hidden temperature sensor in them. They are not disturbing each other, but you should be aware not to create al logical contradiction when defining a couple of rules. It's not great, but better than nothing for a rough guide. For example, I want to turn on my hue smart plug (With a fan plugged in) at night when temperature is over 28 degrees, but do nothing during the day. In order for you to have it discovered and added to the SmartThings hub, you need to reset the Motion Sensor so that it goes into pairing mode. This is also the reason why you can use many different switches for the same target device. To be able to access this sensor you will either need a Hue Labs Formula or the sensor has to be connected to a DIY Zigbee application such as Zigbee2MQTT. May 27, 2020, 11:52am #7. robert: Are you talking about the Philips Hue motion sensor? My family always turn on the lights manually during the day because it can be really dim in our living room (rather big room). The workaround for your problem may be different depending on your hardware. As for the temp, no calibration at all. Yeah, that’s exactly what I mean. I checked the rules generated and the problem seems to be caused by the fact that the “sensor state” variable is set to “1” during the “after sunrise” period, even if I configure no action. It turns on the light when you enter a room and shuts it off when no motion is detected to keep your energy bills down. If you google it, you´ll notice quite a few topics about the motion sensor beeing 2 degrees celsius wrong. The Philips Hue motion sensors do not measure humidity. The difference is 0.1 deg celcius. I'd say that's pretty accurate. I’m not going to use temp for automations anyways so it isn’t a huge deal but I wished it was a bit more accurate for reference... As far as I know the only reason the motion sensor has a temperature sensor is that it came on the generic board hue used, it wasn't even exposed at the start just after people dug around and found it, then hue exposed it so people could see it. I’m trying to work out a way to use the temperature sensor that’s hidden inside the Hue Motion Sensor to track temperature changes every 10 mins or so and record this in a google spreadsheet. I purchased a Hue Motion Sensor ironically not to use as a motion sensor but for the light sensor to turn on the living room lights when it gets to dark. Plus, it is lighting fast to respond and update … If it's still too dark, adjust the light sensitivity of the sensor in the Philips Hue app to personalise when you'd like the motion sensor to activate. I also tried resetting the device with no luck I noticed that the red light that usually lights up when motion is detected is also not lighting up. However, this is exactly what the sensor does – it has motion detection, as expected, but it also comes with an ambient light sensor, which is the small black dot above the motion sensor … Maybe the Hue Essentials app has something to adjust, but I still have to figure out what the app can do. I bet it's to simply sense animal/person in room vs like curtain blowing so accuracy property isn't high. Same thing if I use an “hourly” condition instead of the “sunrise/sunset”. For example, I want to turn on my hue smart plug (With a fan plugged in) at night when temperature is over 28 degrees, but do nothing during the day. Philips advertise it can be used for temp automations so it should be a bit accurate. Hello, Ok I am stuck in a choice hell Of my own making. The sensor only transmits at the moment a change occurs and the routine reacts to the change generating action but it will not react when there is a state already existing at the moment of sunset. As you can see, the answer is a JSON format (I've hidden the bridge ID) and the internalipaddress is (IOT VLAN in my case). The wireless design of this Philips Hue motion sensor … Another model we like is the Philips Hue Motion Sensor (Zigbee), which can now pair directly to an Echo Plus or Echo Show (2nd Gen) without needing a Philips Hue Smart Hub. I know Home Assistant can pull weather info and change status if reports it being cloudy. However, the hidden temperature sensor is all there is. Sit in on a shelf, mount it to a wall, or place it on a magnetic surface by using the included magnet. Didn’t expect it to be truly accurate (it isn’t the primary use anyways) but wished it wasn’t that off. I’ll try it out and let you know. I am having problem configuring my hue motion temperature sensor with conditions. Philips Hue Motion Sensor Uses. They don’t really advertise it anyways. As for temp, is there no calibration? But it is sitting there for 2 days now. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. ToDo: Temperature of the motion-sensor. The ceiling can easily be 2-3 degrees warmer than the floor. At that moment, a corresponding switching command is generated for the target device. Great Hue controller app. Hey Peter, One of them is working fine as a motion, and illuminance sensor but the temperature reading is always 0 degrees. Do you think resetting it would help? The Philips Hue Outdoor Sensor allows you to add motion control to any Hue light, boosting safety and security with a welcoming ambience on your return home. Use the Hue Temperature node to receive current (room) temperature in Celsius and Fahrenheit. Hi sebfortier, I just tested it by putting two motion sensors next to each other along with a thermometer. Zigbee connectivity to the Philips Hue Hub makes this sensor rock solid when it comes to reliability. What Makes the Hue Motion Sensor Better than Other Motion Sensors. I hope this may help with your problem, I am using a similar setting not with a switch and ventilator, but with some IKEA motor blinds to prevent my apartment from overheating on warm days. allows you to set two alerting scenes when the temperature in the baby's room is above or below the thresholds. Setting Up Your Hue Motion Sensor. So this setup works extremely well. The trigger is 23 degrees and the precondition is that it may only work when the windows are closed to prevent jam and maybe damage of the blinds at the moment somebody has opened the windows or I myself maybe had forgotten to close them before I leave my apartment. Once you've purchased your Hue motion sensor, setting it up is easy. The Good Hue's Outdoor Sensor works with Apple HomeKit, and it's actually three sensors in one -- motion, temperature and ambient light. So I positioned it near a window and ‘manually’ calibrated when it’s to dark (just asked my mother to say when she wants the lights on and looked up the lux reading). Motion: Very snappy, works better than original smartthings motion sensor (even if the DTH runs in the cloud) having no delay or sleep time for reporting the motion events. The lights do turn on before sunset, but on cloudy days it gets really dark inside the room way before the lights go on. There is nothing to do than to live with it, as far as I know, or use a openhab rule to make a “software” calibration. Have you tried the three dots on that motion sensor? May 27, 2020, 8:57am #6. But that’s not possible to my knowledge without something like Home Assistant. Configure a “greater than 28 degrees” with a sunset/sunrise condition on the temperature sensor page. Testimonials. The other one is only reporting illuminance and nothing else. The app's … I have two Hue Motion sensors which does not work as intended. When I moved my Hue motion sensor from the ceiling to the floor (for a test), it want from reporting a temperature which was "too high" to reporting "too low". Ah. If I just could offset it by 2 degrees somehow so it shows about accurate in HK. 1 Puntoboy Well-known Member. Temperature Dashboard. What I did: This setup is working most of the time. Not only do you get the motion sensor itself, but also a light intensity sensor and a temperature sensor. All three will be available in HomeKit once the device is setup in the Hue app. Second, there isn't "a" temperature in any room in your house. A device that is switched on once remains switched on when another switch-on impulse comes. In case you weren’t aware, the Hue Motion sensor should really be called the ‘Hue Motion, Ambient Light and Temperature sensor’, but I can see why that wouldn’t work well for marketing purposes, let alone on the front of the box., as far as I can tell, this is not a bug, but is related to the way the sensor transmits its state and the way system logically connects the conditions. Press J to jump to the feed. The event message that the temperature sensor sends contains the following data in the msg.payload object. Then you can see option of temperature. It will not change its state until a power off command is given. To automate the process of token generation OR if you don't know the IP address of your bridge, you wan surf on this page : you need to be on the same network as your hue bridge (or with m-dns rules). With some creative thinking there are a few great ways to use the sensor, here are just a few. Just in case you do decide to take another look at Home assistant, the HUE integration allows exposure of motion sensor, temp sensor and also ambient light level sensor for the HUE motion sensor(s). Our thermostat and another thermometer report 22,5 degrees, the motion sensor 19,7 degrees. Peter. Totally not accurate. They all seem to report the temperature well within the accuracy of a degree. Temperature Events. You can easily mount the device anywhere to detect motion. I purchased a Hue Motion Sensor ironically not to use as a motion sensor but for the light sensor to turn on the living room lights when it gets to dark. Why not just run a sunset routine? This could be a cool idea though to maintain an ambient light level though with the motion sensor. Mostly for motion AND light level detection so that I can program a scene to flip the dimmable lights to a specific level based on ambient light level (or time of day even). Keep tabs on the temperature changes around your home. Ah yes that would explain it. Anyone else noticed this? I don’t have Hue lights in my living room (so can’t use Hue app) so I use an automation in HomeKit. If the temperature is below 28 before sunset, it is working as expected. Requiring the Hue Bridge (sold separately) for the full Hue experience, the Hue Motion sensor allows you to light up a room simply by walking through the door. It works amazingly well. Unlike, the Philips Hue Indoor Motion Sensor, this one is more affordable. robert. Looking for a motion sensor for a small ensuite bathroom. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Thanks for your response. So it’s not a malfunction fortunately, just bad accuracy. Just try to define another setting in addition (!) Jun 15, 2020 #10 Yep, I … You can place it on the floor or a ledge, or you can attach it to a wall with the included mount. It also works with curl / wget / others broswers : You can test it by browsing the IP address It is a general problem with the Philips Hue motion sensor. Once your motion sensor is set up with HomeKit, the temperature sensor functions just like any other, allowing it to work with scenes or automations, and can report the status via Siri on demand. On the next screen, select the ‘Detects Motion’ option and click on the ‘time’ option. That’s indeed pretty accurate. At first I thought maybe it needed some time to adjust. I thought the temperature sensor was a nice addition, but it reads 2 degrees Celsius lower than it actually is. Thanks for the idea. Cookies help us deliver our Services. And the motion sensors report 2255 & 2245. ; From here you can choose to have the motion sensor react in different time-based ways – Any time, During the day, At night, or Specific times.We’re going to choose specific times. It is exposed as a temp sensor in HomeKit but in the Hue app I can’t even find a reading. Use motion sensor to may e increase level if someone enters area. I mostly have been using my IOS devices to control my Hue system. But I was just wondering why the temperature sensor is not accurate at all. Do you mean I should define multiple rules, with the same condition, that does the same things, but for different temperature treshold? Temperature is a bonus as we don’t have a remote temp sensor for upstairs yet. The Hue Motion Sensor cannot reside on your Hue Bridge and SmartThings hub at the same time. It is also compatible with Wink Hub. The problem is that when the temperature is 28 degrees and over before the sunset happens, the sunset action is never triggered. While you can use third-party motion sensors with your Philips Hue lights using various services, the Hue Motion Sensor ($40) makes it easier to turn your Hue bulbs into motion lights in your house. The script gets the temperature from Hue, converts it to Fahrenheit, and rounds it down to two decimal points. Since it needs to be to “0” to trigger the action in the sunset period, it is stuck in this state until the temperature drops below 28. It also just happens to have a temperature sensor. I thought you had hue lights in there. (If you just want to round down to a whole number change the final line to round_truncate(officeTempF,0). The temperature sensor is a nice to have, but the light sensor provides the option to trigger lighting based on need rather than just time of day. Good luck! Then you can Add Thing in the ST Mobile app. So if the critical temperature is already reached at sunset, nothing will happen. Hello, I am having problem configuring my hue motion temperature sensor with conditions. Thus, you can configure the Wink Hub to turn on the A.C whenever the sensor detects very high temperature.